{"id":5324,"date":"2022-12-19T13:57:17","date_gmt":"2022-12-19T18:57:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/?p=5324"},"modified":"2022-12-19T13:57:17","modified_gmt":"2022-12-19T18:57:17","slug":"nathalie-cabrol","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/nathalie-cabrol\/","title":{"rendered":"#348 \u2013 Nathalie Cabrol: Search for Alien Life"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_174\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-5324-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/content.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/lex_ai_nathalie_cabrol.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/content.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/lex_ai_nathalie_cabrol.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/content.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/lex_ai_nathalie_cabrol.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/content.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/lex_ai_nathalie_cabrol.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/?powerpress_pinw=5324-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/content.blubrry.com\/takeituneasy\/lex_ai_nathalie_cabrol.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"lex_ai_nathalie_cabrol.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Technology-Podcasts\/Artificial-Intelligence-p1153019\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_tunein\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on TuneIn\" rel=\"nofollow\">TuneIn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p>Nathalie Cabrol is an astrobiologist at the SETI Institute, directing the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br \/>\n&#8211; <b>True Classic Tees<\/b>: <a href=\"https:\/\/trueclassictees.com\/lex\">https:\/\/trueclassictees.com\/lex<\/a> and use code LEX to get 25% off<br \/>\n&#8211; <b>Shopify<\/b>: <a href=\"https:\/\/shopify.com\/lex\">https:\/\/shopify.com\/lex<\/a> to get free trial<br \/>\n&#8211; <b>BetterHelp<\/b>: <a href=\"https:\/\/betterhelp.com\/lex\">https:\/\/betterhelp.com\/lex<\/a> to get 10% off<br \/>\n&#8211; <b>Athletic Greens<\/b>: <a href=\"https:\/\/athleticgreens.com\/lex\">https:\/\/athleticgreens.com\/lex<\/a> to get 1 month of fish oil<\/p>\n<p><b>EPISODE LINKS:<\/b><br \/>\nNathalie&#8217;s Twitter: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/shasta721\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/shasta721<\/a><br \/>\nSETI&#8217;s Website: <a href=\"https:\/\/seti.org\">https:\/\/seti.org<\/a><br \/>\nIn Her Orbit (article): <a href=\"https:\/\/nytimes.com\/interactive\/2018\/03\/22\/magazine\/voyages-nathalie-cabrol-searching-mars-life-on-earth.html\">https:\/\/nytimes.com\/interactive\/2018\/03\/22\/magazine\/voyages-nathalie-cabrol-searching-mars-life-on-earth.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>PODCAST INFO:<\/b><br \/>\nPodcast website: <a href=\"https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/podcast\">https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/podcast<\/a><br \/>\nApple Podcasts: <a href=\"https:\/\/apple.co\/2lwqZIr\">https:\/\/apple.co\/2lwqZIr<\/a><br \/>\nSpotify: <a href=\"https:\/\/spoti.fi\/2nEwCF8\">https:\/\/spoti.fi\/2nEwCF8<\/a><br \/>\nRSS: <a href=\"https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/feed\/podcast\/\">https:\/\/lexfridman.com\/feed\/podcast\/<\/a><br \/>\nYouTube Full Episodes: <a href=\"https:\/\/youtube.com\/lexfridman\">https:\/\/youtube.com\/lexfridman<\/a><br \/>\nYouTube Clips: <a href=\"https:\/\/youtube.com\/lexclips\">https:\/\/youtube.com\/lexclips<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>SUPPORT &amp; CONNECT:<\/b><br \/>\n&#8211; Check out the sponsors above, it&#8217;s the best way to support this podcast<br \/>\n&#8211; Support on Patreon: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/lexfridman\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/lexfridman<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211; Twitter: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/lexfridman\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/lexfridman<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211; Instagram: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lexfridman\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lexfridman<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211; LinkedIn: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/lexfridman\">https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/lexfridman<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211; Facebook: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/lexfridman\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/lexfridman<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211; Medium: <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@lexfridman\">https:\/\/medium.com\/@lexfridman<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>OUTLINE:<\/b><br \/>\nHere&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br \/>\n(00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br \/>\n(06:47) &#8211; Working in extreme environments<br \/>\n(11:26) &#8211; Water and life on Mars<br \/>\n(19:31) &#8211; Origin of life<br \/>\n(37:00) &#8211; Complexity<br \/>\n(40:37) &#8211; AI<br \/>\n(49:23) &#8211; Extinction<br \/>\n(57:06) &#8211; Fermi Paradox<br \/>\n(1:10:48) &#8211; SETI research<br \/>\n(1:13:39) &#8211; Diving in volcanic lakes<br \/>\n(1:32:57) &#8211; Surviving an earthquake on a volcano<br \/>\n(1:43:37) &#8211; Resilience of life<br \/>\n(1:51:31) &#8211; Life below the surface of Mars<br \/>\n(2:00:26) &#8211; Depression<br \/>\n(2:04:08) &#8211; Mortality<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nathalie Cabrol is an astrobiologist at the SETI Institute, directing the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe. 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