Poster:	michele3339
Date:	2015-08-23 17:56
Subject:	Chelanna Facebook Page
Security:	Public

I'm starting a new Facebook page, so far called Chelanna's Healthy Plural Place. I'm not sure what I'm doing, but I want to give it a try. A and the Annas are helping me post stuff, and hopefully it will link to my Live Journal account. :)

I'm going to try to attach the Layman's Guide here, also.

http://www.karitas.net/blackbirds/layman/brochure_pluralv1.1.pdf

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2012-10-29 18:09
Subject:	Hurricane Sandy
Security:	Public

I don't know where all the members of pavilionhall live, but I want to let anyone and everyone know that my home is open to anyone, anything, pets etc that need it. Just let me know. I am often slow at reading posts, so if I am at all even remotely needed call me.
Jazz Abbottlane
720-258-6269

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2012-07-01 16:56
Subject:	12 year olds, gotta love 'em
Security:	Public
Mood:	amused

I posted something similar to this on the plural_activism site over on Yahoo! But I know that some can't access Yahoo! too well and we really wanted to share this.

I had written a letter but had not yet sent it, "outing" myself to my neighbors. I felt it was in evitable anyhow since the inner kiddos are out so often outside. In this letter I had told the neighbors I was multiple and given a few web sites to help educate hopefully. Anyhow, our 12 year old son "helped" us along a bit faster than we'd intended.

Today, Jan, my housemate, gets this phone call from a concerned neighbor. We'd been to a meeting at her home friday, so she'd seen "me" whom she thought was Debbie. Then Eddie, our 12 year old, spoke with this neighbor at the mailboxes yesterday. Too him multiplicity is the norm and if you're not multiple your the odd man out. He informed this neighbor that his "mommy Debbie died and when you're dead you don't come back".

She then thought that either Eddie was telling tales, or thinking this body (she thought was Debbie)died since the meeting. Either way she felt it important to call.

So what alternative was there except to tell her we were multiple? The news here told how "Sybil was an untrue story" and that was about her extent of knowledge about multiples.

So we gave her a few web sites, all having great links,and lots of information. She "seemed" open to learning, guess I'll find out, huh? Just wanted to share this.

Jazz

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2012-05-19 20:45
Subject:	e-mail correction
Security:	Public

I am so sorry. I just sent everyone a letter with an e-mail to respond to if they wanted, and I spelled my name wrong. My correct e-mail address is Tracee@aspenpatch.com

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2012-05-19 20:35
Subject:	A very serious request
Security:	Public

Hi,
My name is Tracee and I’m writing to you because I am the reflector for Oure Gaiya right now. I’ll be putting this request out to several different places, so you might see it more than once.
Recently we had a death. It was long in coming, but that doesn’t make it any easier. The person who left us was Debbie. Some of you knew her I think. Dying is as permanent as life is real to us. I do know that with some, when people die they come back later on sometimes. That doesn’t happen with us. At least it hasn’t as long as the body’s been alive. And we have lost many in that time. But that’s all beside the point.
What I’m really writing about, actually, I’m pleading, that someone out there in Internet land can or know of someone who might do grief counseling either on the phone or online.
Jazz, which again some of you know, has taken Debbie’s death a lot harder than any of us. Don’t get me wrong, we all extremely upset at our loss. But Jazz was particularly close to Debbie. She was the yin to Jazz’s yang. Debbie wasn’t aware she was a “we” most of her reflecting years. Many of the things that overwhelmed Debbie to the point of breakdown were learning that she wasn’t the only one in the body. It really wigged her out. Not that she was closed minded, she wasn’t, not really. She’d been brain washed the same as most of western society. As she came to grips with things and learned more about what is to be a healthy multiple, she embraced being plural. But with the outer world’s demands on her and the fact that we sort of took advantage of her, it became too much and she slowly declined until she was no more.
When I say we took advantage of her, what I’m referring to is that as Debbie became reflector more and more, we sort of faded from her awareness. Many reflectors have been in the dark over the years that they weren’t alone, mostly for safety reasons. When we were young we all played together and were happy with each other. But time showed that to be unsafe, so reflectors often were in the dark. Those who excelled at certain things still did those things, but as the body got older it became less and less necessary to do some things. So over the years we sort of just assumed Debbie was fine as reflector. We were wrong. She’d needed our support and we hadn’t given it to her. We wanted things so we pushed to get them, not worrying about how it might affect her.
For these reasons Jazz isn’t just mourning the loss of Debbie, as most of us are. She feels responsible in great part to Debbie’s dying at all. We mostly are mourning, and knowing we screwed up, but not exactly feeling responsible like Jazz does.
So if any of you can help us out we’d be very grateful. You can e-mail me, Tracce@aspenpatch.com or just respond to this. Thank you very much.
Tracee

Poster:	ksol1460
Date:	2012-05-10 13:53
Subject:	Something you might be interested in
Security:	Public
Mood:	cranky

http://www.dsm5-reform.com/summary-of-concerns-regarding-the-dsm-5-as-currently-proposed/

I have tried to stay out of this discussion about criterion C in the Dissociative Identity Disorder diagnosis, because the entire existence of the DSM gives me pains in the spleen. It becomes longer and more abominable with each revision, and I still believe that "dissociative identity disorder" should be removed altogether. They're clearly not willing to concede that multiple personalities exist, and the last thing we need is language in the psychiatric "bible" that says we only think we're plural.

I'm talking about criterion A, which basically states that we are not persons, but merely disruptions of identity within a single personality.

If you decide to give feedback during this public comment period, I think it might be an excellent idea to focus on the need to change criterion A. I know it's a foregone conclusion, but I think we should write to them about it and keep writing even after the thing has gone to press.

I think we should also be in touch with the DSM reform people via the link above. Explain our situation and what we're attempting to accomplish, and see what kind of response we get from them. If our goal is to normalise multiplicity, we should be contacting as many professionals as possible who wish to change the status quo.

A. Temple

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2012-05-03 13:03
Subject:	WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!
Security:	Public
Mood:	bouncy

On the tail of Jay's comment, we did it!!!!!!! They changed the DSM's hesitation for leaving criteria "C" in. Now we need to write them one last time. This may be our last opportunity to say anything. And if the shrinks get in there and try to get them to take it back out, then we have a serious set back.

So we really really need to write them 1 last time, thanking them for being so openminded and keeping criteria "c" in there!

We did it though everyone, we succeeded in get a big thing accomplished by everyone pulling together. THANK YOU!!!!!!!

Poster:	ksol1460
Date:	2012-05-03 10:31
Subject:	DSM-5 reopens for public comment
Security:	Public
Mood:	awake

Got an email this morning, "The DSM 5 is (finally) open for public comment again. It will be for six weeks."

ETA Just in case you would like to know what this is about:
http://www.astraeasweb.net/plural/dsmchanges.html

Sorry we forgot to put the link in.

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2012-03-08 14:17
Subject:	podcasts
Security:	Public

Hi everyone,
We posted this on Multiplicity, so this is probably redundant for most of you. But anyhow, here goes
I'm posting here to see if any is willing to be interviewed for some podcasts we will be doing in reference to multiplicity in the very near future. We want to also include people who are in some way involved with multiple.. Marriage/partners, family, friends, work with, go to school with etc. other multiples. Anyone think they can get someone(s) Of course this is way confidential, so no worries there. Now if you want to out yourselves that's great too. We (Oure Gaiya) sure plan to.

Poster:	ksol1460
Date:	2012-03-07 22:15
Subject:	Somebody with a Facebook account?
Security:	Public
Mood:	working

http://www.facebook.com/DebbieNathanAuthor?sk=app_190322544333196

We can't get into this. Somebody want to send us some screenshots/ page captures?

Poster:	lb_lee
Date:	2011-12-29 09:25
Subject:	Singlets getting it
Security:	Public

Aw, sweet!  We got blogged about by Maymay of malesubmissionart.com!  He also gave some of his two cents as a singlet who's interacted with the mental health system. (In the past, we also got some press from Holly Pervocracy.)

We got to meet Maymay by accident a month or so ago because he was at a con in our area and crashing at a roommate of a friend's place.  We only got to talk to him a short period, but he's a nice guy with interesting things to say.

Wooha!

Please join the conversation.  Maymay has asked us to correct him if he misrepresented us in any way, and he seems amenable to walking his talk.

--Rogan

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2011-12-24 19:59
Subject:	podcast or other media
Security:	Public
Mood:	excited

Awhiles back, theroyalus, pyraxis and a few others showed interest in doing an podcast. I know theroyalus was a bit overwhelmed with other things, and I know the hoilidays are really stressful. So I was wondering if perhaps if things settled down for folks so they might be able to work on it now? Or maybe even a vidoe clip or something similar.

I was also wondering if you'd be willing to join another group.. "plural_activism" on yahoo. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Plural_Activism/ It's another group we're part of that focus's on ta-da activism. Anyhow, it'd be easier to coordinate things if we were all in one place.

Jazz

PS anyone and everyone here that'd be interested. Wasn't wanting to limit anyone by saying specific names.

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2011-11-26 21:23
Subject:	Thank you!
Security:	Public

I said this over on Multiplicity too, but you can never say it enough...
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to wikimultiple! We're well on our way.

Jazz

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2011-11-25 21:07
Subject:
Security:	Public

There's a new kid in town! We now have a multiple wikipedia! Please go there and start some topics. We need as many different opinions, definitions and suports etc. that we can muster. The only definition going on right now is Healthy Multiple. Post this on your web sites and blogs etc. too!
What's your definition of;
Healthy Multiple.
D.I.D
M.P.D.
Personality
etc. Come on over and speak up

Debbie
http://wikimultiple.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

Poster:	ksol1460
Date:	2011-08-24 16:22
Subject:	Halle Berry, again
Security:	Public

Would anybody like to have a go at this?

Poster:	ksol1460
Date:	2011-07-27 09:59
Subject:	Seen this?
Security:	Public
Mood:	thoughtful

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2011/07/25/bps-on-dsm/

British Psychological Society on DSM-5
By Will Meek, PhD

Some of you may be following the development of the forthcoming fifth revision to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the major book used for psychiatric diagnosis. There has been a lot of criticism due to the secrecy of the process this time around, but the British Psychological Society (BPS), the major mental health organization in the UK, is taking an even more interesting and refreshing angle: criticizing the entire current framework of diagnosis.

The DSM takes a medical approach to diagnosis. In short, this means that a 'patient' is assumed to have an underlying 'pathology' that manifests as various 'symptoms' that are assessed to make a 'diagnosis' and then apply a 'treatment' to said diagnosis. This approach basically makes various human conditions into 'illnesses' that need 'interventions' like medication or cognitive behavioral therapy. In a recent paper, BPS has criticized this framework as harmful to individuals and the public.

"The Society is concerned that clients and the general public are negatively affected by the continued and continuous medicalisation of their natural and normal responses to their experiences; responses which undoubtedly have distressing consequences which demand helping responses, but which do not reflect illnesses so much as normal individual variation. (p.1)"

"We believe that classifying these problems as 'illnesses' misses the relational context of problems and the undeniable social causation of many such problems. For psychologists, our well-being and mental health stem from our frameworks of understanding of the world, frameworks which are themselves the product of the experiences and learning through our lives. (p.4)"

As a practicing psychologist who also teaches a class on diagnosis for master's level therapists, I could not be more excited reading this paper. BPS essentially takes a more humanistic and social constructivist approach to the problems of living. The benefits of this include reducing stigma, a larger focus on the interpersonal dimensions of mental health, and normalizing the experience of having problems during life. Cheers to you BPS, now if only your American counterparts would get the message . . .

Dr Will Meek is a psychologist practicing in Vancouver, WA. He writes regularly about mental health on his blog: Vancouver Psychologist.

***

Check out the "dissociative identity disorder" commenter at the end.

Meanwhile this B.S. got approved for the DSM-5, proving their point. The latest in the long series of psychiatric diagnoses for kids who are acting bratty.

Poster:	ksol1460
Date:	2011-07-15 00:06
Subject:	Did it.
Security:	Public
Mood:	accomplished

We posted our comment to the DSM-5 revision of DID with our singlet identity, so will not reprint it here, but will summarize by saying that we kept it to a few bare facts and some logical realities.

Poster:	ksol1460
Date:	2011-07-01 15:14
Subject:	another one
Security:	Public
Mood:	rushed

http://lubbockonline.com/health/2011-06-04/kara-becoming-complete

Here's another article you can comment on if you feel so inclined.

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2011-06-22 13:35
Subject:	A HUMONGUS Thank You!
Security:	Public

Really folks, I mean thank you sincerely. Don't know when or if we'll see that our comments to the DSM-V people made a difference, but hopefully we will! The positive response was well beyond what we expected. And the videos that the gang from KSOL1460's made was mind blowing!

Poster:	ouregaiya
Date:	2011-06-11 15:47
Subject:
Security:	Public

When others of the body were first learning of each other, well, mostly Debbie... Jazz says.Her socially battered brain said multiple=sybil=nut case, end of story. There was no info out there, none, that could easily be located, concerning positive plurality. Had there been things would have gone sooooooo much better, for everyone.

It took Jan's non-relenting pouring over the Internet in order to find the sites that helped her to accept that being multiple did NOT mean you were whacko!

So here's our thought(s). We pool our resources and pay googgle so that when someone puts in a search for multiple, plural, DID, MPD they will get a site that gives info positive plurality. We can work out logisitics, like which site, what that site might also have (such as with links etc.) If there was one big clearing house versus a catch as you can type situation, those who are newly diagnosed, looking for info (yes, looking for info can start on a positive foot -yeah!)

What does everyone think?