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The creative process. That's... not inaccurate, even if some of us mostly loop from 'yes, lazy' to 'no, it's pointless'.

Actually, my personal creative process is generally one of these:

1. Sit down, write a thing. Wonder how that happened and how I can make it repeat more than once a year.

2. Plan out crack universe with thirty characters (usually crossovery). Write bitlets. We might name this the [livejournal.com profile] greenet method, not necessarily because she does it more, but because utilizing it to create a 1,000,000-word zombie apocalypse of awesome is worth some respect.

3. Plan sprawling AUs with strange premises and complex ideas. Figure it'll take about 40,000 words. Write out 2,000. Spend next decade vaguely planning to go back to it some day.

I should maybe mention here that the story where Harry Potter wakes up in a future where he's the next Voldemort and, worse, in bed with Draco Malfoy, is absolutely still on the back burner. Yes. There it is, burning away.

The exception to the rule here is the many words written in Kael's universes, because somehow it's much easier to write when somebody else supplies the amazingness*. Also, cranky bodyswapped people are funny.


*Kael, if/when you see this: Yes, but that's writer's block. Writer's block doesn't care if it's easy or not. NO I'M NOT BROKEN.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
*coughs*

Man. I should finish one of my plotted things that live in my head.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
No. You are definitely exempt from this method, and the reason is this: ALL YOUR OLD THINGS END IN DEAD LEX.

It's not that I want to stifle your creative process, or think you aren't a beautiful writer, you understand. It's that because of you I've had a ghost Kris Allen leaving in my head for months now and I'm more bitter than I can explain.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
WHAT NO I DON'T ALWAYS KILL MY DARLINGS. And I haven't killed a Lex in YEARS. And whenever I kill dudes or ladies in The Four (unfinished, for six years now), I usually bring them back. At least for flashbacks.

I've been experimenting lately with HAPPY ENDINGS.

Also: dude, don't blame me for the dead Kris Allen. (WHAT KIND OF A MONSTER KILLS A POCKET-IDOL?!)

Date: 2010-07-10 06:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
The Four (unfinished, for six years now)

Yes. Yes, this is exactly the way to help me get over my bitterness.

Also, flashbacks don't count, and also, what happy endings? *highly suspicious*

I absolutely do blame you for the dead Kris Allen, although I'll admit that was partly me being contrary. But mostly it was you and your death aura.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
Sometimes also in dream sequences! Or AUs. Or, uh, faked deaths.

My creativity is all negative because nobody's telling me to write anything. *SADS* So I can't do even happy endings, but I'm totally willing to consider them!

And my death aura isn't supposed to affect American Idol! (Unless it's a rewrite of that *nsync fic that Lisie or somebody wrote where Justin was presumed dead after a kidnapping or something, and then he comes back, because, man, that fic is great and needs to be redone in every bandom. Or an AI version of the Keanu Reeves/Sandra Bullock movie The Lakehouse.)

Date: 2010-07-10 06:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
Oh, man. No, that was [livejournal.com profile] wax_jism, I think. Lise only wrote him as a cult-heading serial killer. I think. Also, I'm jdging you pretty hard right now for that suggestion. *judges*

Dreams don't count. AUs... count a little. Faked deaths totally do count, though.

More importantly: hey, you know I'm always happy to prompt/order people around. Say the word! (And the fandom/s.)

Date: 2010-07-10 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
You are correct! But I've talked about that fic with Lise enough that my brain shorthands it as her fic.

And you can prompt me anytime. The fandom is free of choice (except no bandom since them I don't know).

Date: 2010-07-10 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
But you also don't know figure skating! I need parameters, here. Also hmmmmmmmm. I'll think this over while I Actually Study OMG(tm) and email you.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
Ooh, there's a bandom fic by an AI author -- [Bad username or site: eleanor_lavish</a @ livejournal.com] -- where Brendon gets hit on the head and wakes up in the future where he's been missing and presumed dead for years. It is so very awesome (http://ink-like-blood.livejournal.com/23754.html#cutid2).

Date: 2010-07-10 07:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-07-10 07:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
I never read this. How is that possible? *Adds to the lis -- oh damn it.*

Date: 2010-07-10 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
I am beginning to think that this list of yours is nothing but a clever platitude.

Date: 2010-07-10 07:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
...Clever?

No, the sad thing is that the list at least partly exists. This is why I always feel guiltily relieved when something happens and all my bookmarks are lost. (Of course, these days I'm a nomad between computers and mostly save links on gmail, so my only solution is to forget they're there.)

Date: 2010-07-10 07:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
Also, I should maybe clarify that sometimes I actually read the things you rec, although the mp3 giving up the ghost semi-permanently put me on a mostly-podfic diet for now. (Apparently I don't know how to read on the actual computer anymore.)

Date: 2010-07-10 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
(WHAT KIND OF A MONSTER KILLS A POCKET-IDOL?!)

Seriously.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
There will be no dog piling! Especially when the person you're dog piling with is a character serial killer. And also responsible for said dead pocket idol, even if she didn't know it at the time.

(It's not like he's gone-dead. It just turns out it's pretty hard to make ghosts happy.)

Date: 2010-07-10 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
...actually, now I'm getting quite intrigued by this dead!Kris thing. Maybe I am a character serial killer.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
I am in no way surprised and also, do you want him? I'll give him to you cheap.

Date: 2010-07-10 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
Oh man, I don't want the ghost!Kris since I don't think I could handle a sad Adam. At all.

But I look forward to reading about this some more!

Date: 2010-07-10 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
YES EXACTLY. In the beginning I was all, this is okay! It's temporary sadness, I'll give him a happy ending! But seriously, it's much harder than you'd think to find an actual happy ending with ghosts.

Date: 2010-07-10 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
Unless the other person dies too.

OR, if we take romantic comedy plots into account, unless the ghost was NOT ACTUALLY DEAD but the disembodied spirit of a comatose patient. IT COULD HAPPEN.

Date: 2010-07-10 07:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
Unless the other person dies too. You know, on one of your earlier comments, I wrote out a full paragraph of rant about a story I sat all the way through a few months back that involved a ghost, then decided to spare you and deleted it. Clearly that was the wrong decision because NO, THE OTHER PERSON DYING IS NOT A HAPPY ENDING (and people who write epic stories ending that way and then expect you to think it is are BAD. Ahem.)

All that said, re: your second option, OH HEY.

Date: 2010-07-10 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
You know what, considering one of my open tabs is a fic prompted by someone asking what if Spencer was dead and then there was a very complicated threesome involving his ghost?, I don't really have firm ground to stand on. In any case I will forgive you anything provided you actually go ahead and write it.

Date: 2010-07-10 07:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
o.O I'd say the answer would be 'interesting relationship dynamics but a pretty frustrating sex life, at least for him.' But I have to admit, your reading habits might be shaky here but you rate pretty high on the happy/non-soul-crushing writing front. WHICH I APPROVE OF.

In any case I will forgive you anything provided you actually go ahead and write it.

That's so sweet and yet such cruel mockery.

Date: 2010-07-10 07:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] greenet.livejournal.com
I do feel that it is worth some respect. *agrees* It's even my approach when no zombies are involved at all! It's versatile!

Date: 2010-07-10 07:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
No, no, I wasn't trying to suggest zombies were always involved! Although hey, that might be an interesting twist.

I miss not-actually-zombie-hunter Gabe and Victoria now. And, I mean, all the rest of them, but, yeah. Also, girl Spencer.

Date: 2010-07-12 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nogah.livejournal.com
Thank you, bb, for bringing that comic into my life ♥

Date: 2010-07-12 03:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tieleen.livejournal.com
Glad to! I need to remember to look at it beyond that one, too.

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